Getting the Word Out

 

Repeal the19th AmendmentHow to tell others about God’s loving plan of patriarchy?

Where I work I usually get a couple emails weekly about what the company is doing to empower women, or increase diversity.  Supposedly diversity of ideas is a good thing, and apparently you get it by hiring and promoting people who don’t look like myself.   LOL   However, even though my ideas are quite outside the mainstream, instead of being celebrated for such diversity of thought, I know I might be fired for sharing my diverse beliefs with some of the “diverse” people at work.  Although I do continually push the envelope at work, sharing more about Godly Sexism than anybody else I know there.

I bought the shirt, shown above, from Amazon and wore it yesterday.(not to work)  My boys were the first to ask me what the 19th amendment was.  And It gave me the chance to share with them  that the 19th amendment allowed women to vote in the USA.

Later I got to briefly share the calamity of women voting with a stocker at Walmart who asked me what the 19th amendment was.  He didn’t really say anything in return.  I assume he had been coached not to speak of his personal politics with customers.  But, his facial expression looked shocked, like he’d just had his pussy grabbed.

Our country has made a grave mistake by letting women “help” rule us.  And as expected, ideological politics descended from written platforms and whole speeches printed in newspapers, into glamour photos and quotable quips from the candidates.  Today we have memes and soundbites, but the effect is the same.  Both parties left off deep discussion of the candidates stances and ideas and effectively turned elections into beauty contests judged by flighty “undecided” women.

Giving women the vote also meant the inevitable passage of “women’s issues”, e.g. Abortion on demand,(babies are drawn & quartered in their mother’s wombs) No-Fault Divorce,(family men are absolutely ruined for No-Fault of their own) the Sexual Harassment campaign,(that criminalizes even the mildest pursuit and advances by unwelcomed men) Equal pay for twice the drama, and every imaginable perversion of virtue and justice along with a whole raft of freebies and carveouts designed to provide for women who don’t care to treat any man respectably enough to earn that provision from him.  So, women voting has brought a murderous reign of family devastation upon our nation and world, and I don’t see what we’ve gained by making women so entitled.

If we feel men were created by God to be the leaders, and run society in accordance with God’s will, then we need to be able to openly share those Godly ideas, before we can ever expect we’ll get others to agree with them and adopt them.

40 thoughts on “Getting the Word Out

  1. So you are making yourself a target, kudos. Our youth pastor told the kids once that the only good thing to come from feminism was women voting. I explained to him that the founding fathers patterned our representative good government in part after Israel’s male representation. Exodus 18:25 NASB
    Moses chose able men out of all Israel and made them heads over the people, leaders of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties and of tens.
    Thankfully he took it to heart.

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  2. old-fashioned-man,
    As a child of God’s, I have quite often been a target. God has hardened me for battle. Keep up the good fight! We need to seek out opportunities to share God’s Way, and Truth, and Life, with a lost and blinded world. I haven’t been on duty like I should have been for much of my life. We only get one brief life, and it is slipping away. If my sons’ generation is more wicked and disrespectful of men than my own, I don’t want it to be because I gave up and didn’t fight for God’s righteousness. I pray God gives us all renewed strength and the wisdom to fight against our adversary, fighting in Jesus name, until our King returns omnipotent to slay our adversaries with the sword that goes out of His mouth. The Judge is at the door, may He find us being faithful.

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  3. Yes, repeal it.

    Old-fashioned Man – if Sharkly doesn’t think it’s too far off-topic, could you say more about the church pastor who changed course? It is a rare an encouraging result, and I would love to hear how he worded his contrition.

    Back on topic, if Barna ran a poll of Christians who read the Bible daily of how many want the 19th amendment repealed, what do you think the results would be? I think less than 5 percent would affirm repeal. Less than 1 percent maybe?
    It’s crazy.

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  4. Bee, It has been sent. I deleted your email address from your comment for your protection and privacy. I wasn’t certain, but I thought you might want that. If anybody wants to contact me without posting their email address, the contact page allows you to do that.

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  5. Old-fashioned Man – if Sharkly doesn’t think it’s too far off-topic, could you say more about the church pastor who changed course?

    Yes, I’d like to hear more also. You are all free to go off topic. All I ask is that it not get like social media where folks post comments just about what they ate for breakfast. Am I the only one who had fried mouflon this morning? Sorry, had to do it. 😉

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  6. I didn’t want to get started with the breakfast talk, but I’ll try to tie it back into women voting.
    Here is a mouflon:
    Mouflon murdering mama
    A hunter gave me about 70 pounds of assorted fish & game meat, mainly wild boar sausage and venison, but including some mouflon, in exchange for letting he and a buddy hunt some migratory waterfowl on my 40 acre pond this winter. I fried some mouflon steak for supper but the boys and I didn’t like it too well, it was tough and had a faint liver taste, so we mainly ended up eating something else and I threw the mouflon steaks in the refrigerator to soak in some Worcestershire sauce. This morning I sliced some thin cold cuts off the steaks and had them for breakfast. As you can see from the picture, when some women aren’t killing their babies, these poor mouflon sheep get to feel their deadly wrath. The women exhibit a visceral attraction to destroying anything big and horny that might want to ram them. And since some of us men fall into that category, we realize now, that letting women vote would be like giving them a loaded gun and expecting them to lead us to greener pastures. KABOOM!!! Yer mutton! And she’s already got her sights on the next horny critter. How did we not see that all coming?

    I also noticed, on Amazon, that it showed that the folks who shopped for that T-shirt also were mainly shopping for women’s pajama bottoms. So, I think women must buy it as a nightshirt to wear to bed and dream of the return of the patriarchy.

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  7. Glad to see this post here.

    On ‘conservative’ sites I often contend for repeal of the Nineteenth. Did so again this week. Mights well ask them to strip naked and skip down Pennsylvania Avenue playing bagpipes.

    Feminism is so unconsciously ingrained in Americans — including conservatives and Christians — that it is beyond the pale even to consider ‘taking away power’ from the Almighty Female. Horrors! The Right will fight you on it as vigorously as the Left.

    However, there is zero (0) chance that America can be reformed while women control the socio-political agenda, which they have for the better part of a century already. The nuclear family is dying, the churches are feminized, the colleges are nearing two-thirds female enrollment, the abortions continue by the millions, but Christians and conservatives don’t care . . . at least they don’t care enough to do what’s necessary.

    Men love to wax eloquent on political sites and show how smart they are, but the array of problems facing America will only worsen as long as women continue to steer the nation. It remains our duty to speak the truth, and offer the nation the solution, but American men simply do not have the groceries to stop the rot.

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  8. lol! i read that right before going to bed, and it cracked me up!

    and … you know, if you don’t want a woman thinking about something, like mouflon for breakfast, it’s probably best not to even mention it 😉 lol! however, since you have, i remember BG, who comments a lot at Spawny’s and used to at Red Pill Girl’s site when she was posting, writing something about wild goats or sheep and preparing their meat once. my memory is vague, but i seem to remember something about when they are killed being important in that adrenaline or some other body things surge thru their bodies at certain times (after running?) and make the meat tough. anyway … you probably know more about that than i ever will.

    but … being a woman who cooks from scratch for her family daily, i was a bit intrigued, so looked up how to cook mouflon tender. my search engine only came up with sheep, which i found interesting, but found this hunter site for wild mountain sheep recipes: http://huntingtipsandtricks.com/a/Wild_Mountain_Sheep_Recipes
    i would not recommend using foil or any aluminum product to cook food in, though, as aluminum is not good for out bodies. but i did find it interesting that beer was used in the first recipe, which would tenderize the meat.

    searching for mouflon recipes did turn up more info, including
    https://www.ottogrills.com/recipe/mouflon-lamb-fillets-from-the-grill/

    Mouflon Meat – https://www.keziefoods.co.uk/Catalogue/Lean-Meats/Exotic-Meats/Mouflon-Meat
    Our European Mouflon (Wild Sheep) is not our leanest meat which is why it’s so flavourful.

    Mouflon is still leaner than domestic market sheep.

    It provides a balanced supply of amino acids that can’t be synthesized by our body and so have to come from our diet.

    What’s more, it contains vitamins B3 and B12, iron and zinc.

    there were also some interesting tips and comments in this thread: https://forums.bowsite.com/tf/bgforums/thread.cfm?threadid=365226&forum=17

    (i replaced the . with DOT in all the links so i wouldn’t get kicked into moderation)

    [LOL I still had to rescue it from the spam folder. So I put the dots back in to fix all the broken links]

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    back to women voting and feminism … i remember years ago (ten or so?) hearing this concept for the first time from a man i deeply respect. it took me a few years to process it, but y’all are right. are there *some* women who can handle the responsibility? sure. but giving a blanket freedom to make such choices to women has proven to be disastrous. and … going all the way back to Eve, in her own words in Genesis 3:13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this that you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

    we are easily deceived and emotionally driven and prone to use such as an excuse when things don’t turn out as we expect.

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  9. [LOL I still had to rescue it from the spam folder. So I put the dots back in to fix all the broken links]

    guess we women always need to be rescued from something! lol!

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  10. It is the folly of a man to assume he knows better than God to have placed woman under him in the Order of Creation. It is cowardice.
    Her first warning post-Fall is that she will desire to rule. Her pride will be her stumbling block.
    Her first commandment post-Fall is that she will be ruled over.
    Ge 3:16

    To assume this is ‘too harsh’ exposes the false men in God’s Order. The question is not ‘how do we give women a share in the dominion of Creation’ but rather ‘how well are we ruling over them?’

    Jesus, being the head of the church, like man is head of the family, provides the example for what God’s rule of the family looks like.

    Women are weaker. 1 Pt 3:7
    Women are more easily deceived. 1 Ti 2:14
    Women are to be under authority- they are not authority themselves. 1 Co 11:6
    The role of woman is sex, childbearing, companionship. She was made for man. Man was made for dominion. Ge 1:28, Ge 2:18, 1 Ti 2:15, 1 Co 11:9, Ge 2:15

    ^ This is a no-frills run-down directly pulled from the Bible. Anyone who tries to skate their way out of this exposes themselves as a charlatan. Do not assume you know better than God, or that God did not say what He meant to say. It is God’s intention that she live under a man’s guidance, protection, provision. He did not make a mistake when He made man and issued him his edicts, nor for the woman.

    Repeal the 19th.

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  11. OT:
    1. The way game or livestock spends its final 30 seconds matters greatly in the quality of the meat. An animal under duress releases toxins into its bloodstream that sour the meat.
    2. The way different meats are prepared (fatty content dictates much) differs. Cooking lamb the way you cook either steak or poultry will not yield ideal results. There is a different skillset to learn with this meat.
    3. I would love some venison jerky going into the winter.

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  12. 1. The way game or livestock spends its final 30 seconds matters greatly in the quality of the meat. An animal under duress releases toxins into its bloodstream that sour the meat.

    that is very interesting … i did not know that.

    The way different meats are prepared (fatty content dictates much) differs. Cooking lamb the way you cook either steak or poultry will not yield ideal results. There is a different skillset to learn with this meat.

    interesting; i’ve never cooked wild game before.

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  13. ray,
    I’m glad to hear that you have been fighting for the solution, for going back to God’s ways and God’s ordering of families and society. And you are correct that even the political right and most all churches are “stuck on stupid” when it comes to supporting female empowerment. We need more men like yourself who are willing to contend for what is righteous, and what the solution is.

    …America will only worsen as long as women continue to steer the nation. It remains our duty to speak the truth, and offer the nation the solution…
    Amen!

    Even the heathen can figure out by nature that empowering women, and disempowering men to rule women, is unnatural and the root of the ungodly war between the sexes, and is bringing the destruction of our families and civilization. “Turd Flinging Monkey”(TFM) is just such a man. He was thrown off of YouTube and has reemerged on BitChute now. He was the person who first convinced me that there is no other solution that can work, besides, men just waking up and taking women’s “rights” back away. As long as women can vote, Satan through Eve, will lead us further away from God’s commands and God’s design. The Great whore is dedicated to emasculating God, and deifying the image of women. TFM, who has no reverence for any church, cuts through the churchian bullshit like a hot knife through butter. If you can look past the fact that he finances his channel through selling sex dolls and dirty books to men whom the churchians have nothing but far more vain imprisoning “solutions” for, you can see that he is smart, thinks for himself, and he too, has by nature(or natural reasoning), figured out much of what is wrong with the rebellious churchians. The moment you idolize or “pedestalize” women into the image of God and thereby into equality or parity with men,(the true images of God) you have created a blasphemous satanic false religion that will bring men and women down to hell. The churchians put men into bondage where God has provided a solution. God made woman for the man, and it is better for men to marry than to burn. But the satanic churchians burn men, telling the young women, go away to college to become independent of men, get a career started and be independent, and if you should happen to slip up, and land on the dick of a thousand immoral men, we’ve already forgiven you for it and won’t let your defilement of spirit be ill spoken of, we’ll elevate the nastiest whore above submitting to the most Godfearing of men, you will become our goddess who rules over men by the “wisdom” of your emotions. LOL They’re synagogues of Satan, not churches at all! I’m proud to say that I’ve separated myself from those false brethren, those eternal fools, those crazy cunt-worshippers. I am the image of God, and God’s word lights my path. Arise oh sleeper! Take women’s “rights” away! If not out of duty to God, even the Father, at least do it for the men and children she will lead to destruction, if empowered and left to her own devices.
    Proverbs 5:5 Her feet go down to death, Her steps lay hold of hell. 6 She does not ponder the path of life; Her ways are unstable, she does not know it.

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  14. Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

    When we harken unto the votes of women and turn things like abortion of the innocent, into the law of the land, when God has already forbid murder, we undoubtedly again bring down curses against our land.

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  15. Ge 3:17 is echo’ed in Pr 31:3, and the example of failure that both Adam and Samson live out. The punishment arrives when the man abdicates his position to the woman.

    ” When we harken unto the votes of women and turn things like abortion of the innocent, into the law of the land, when God has already forbid murder, we undoubtedly again bring down curses against our land. ”

    We are promises blessings as a people, tribe, nation if only we’d do that dreadful and difficult thing of carrying out His commandments: Dt 28:1, Le 26:3-9

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  16. “When we harken unto the votes of women and turn things like abortion of the innocent, into the law of the land, when God has already forbid murder, we undoubtedly again bring down curses against our land.”

    The sons of the nation turn against it. Covertly and untraceably. They fume and pressurize. That is one of the first curses.

    Psalm 2 answers this. The nations betray God, betray fatherhood. They conspire against not only the LORD, but also against his ‘anointed’. This means Christ, and also any of God’s anointed in heaven or upon Earth, definitely including the prophets, apostles, and certain servants.

    In response to the rebellious conspiracies — of which feminism is a major, but sadly not sole, part — God speaks to them in wrath, and vexes (curses) them in sore displeasure. Even as you say, Pastor Sharkly.

    Remember that angels sit in general authority over all terrestrial areas/nations. So God would be threatening them, too. It’s a two-fer!

    The thoroughly delightful and uplifting Psalm 2 ends with ‘Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye PERISH FROM THE WAY (hello mass shootings etc.), when His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are they that put their trust in him.’ (emphasis and parenthesis added)

    Similarly, in recent decades, there has been an abrupt increase in fires and ‘natural disasters’ across America, in addition to widespread domestic disturbances. America is home to elements of significant spiritual influence.

    I agree with your equation of females having votes (secular tokens of power) with Adam hearkening to the ‘voice of the woman’ in Eden. What was a localized and regional disaster then, is a global disaster now.

    King Jeshua will reverse Eden, but it doesn’t begin with His Parousia, it begins here.

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  17. Sure. You deserve to know as you are implicated.
    Sure. Given that you’re directly implicated and will be more so yet.

    The title for Earth transferred from Adam (men) to satan due to Adam listening to or obeying the woman instead of God. If that reminds you of any nations you know I think we can proceed.

    Eden was a prototype of the (earthly) Kingdom, and Eden was/is closed to human beings and guarded by an angel.

    King Jeshua (won’t be his name then but, anyway) will begin the profane restoration of the Garden from His Throne where two rivers of hallowed water will flow west and east, to the Mediterranean and the Dead Sea (that’ll need a new name too).

    But the spiritual restoration of Eden begins now. We start the process of reversing the REASON for God cursing the planet, and its creations, with suffering and death. Adam — and the man — are returned to their original legacy as administrators over the Earth. Presently supervision is done by territorial angels.

    God tells us through Malachi 4 that, above all, He wants (and expects) the father restored to primacy in the family unit, and re-connected with his children, in the years before He returns to rule. If that doesn’t happen He will trample this place, likely beginning with the source of the rebellion, the U.S.

    In the time before Christ’s Parousia, we are supposed to:

    1) facilitate the ‘landing’ of the Kingdom on Earth by defending and advancing father-family primacy, especially the dad/son bond, because it’s the terrestrial mirror of heavenly order (Papa/Jeshua); and

    2) ground satan using the truth and weapons in Revelation 12:10-11

    The expeditionary force goes before the Army to reconnoiter, harass, and build the landing strip. Heaven is more amenable to reversal of the Curse when men on Earth contend for fatherhood and make war on feminism and other satanic elements. When men grovel heaven sees little point in getting involved, as men themselves can’t be bothered.

    Feminism began in Eden, and mankind has always lived under the slavery of mother-goddess cults and occult brotherhoods of one form or another. Certainly the OT documents this across many centuries in the Near East. So do multiple secular sources including seminal texts like James Frazer’s.

    To Reverse the Curse, men cease listening to the voice of the woman, and begin again heeding God. Simple but not so easy eh?

    The Sentry is placated the King’s heart is softened and by these small things, humble as they seem to us and humble as they are, Eden soon re-opens. Under new management.

    That’s a sketch let me know if anything’s unclear.

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  18. I have a few questions ray?

    So when can we go from meekness and turning the other cheek to ruling them with a rod of iron and treading them down like ashes? And how much are you given to know about the timeline? How much authority do His servants have now?

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  19. You understood what I wrote. Those are the right questions.

    I will consider what is good to say, and what is good to say publicly. I might be asking some questions myself.

    The sermons here are profitable and so is much of the commentary.

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  20. I look forward to hearing more about the coming kingdom, and what role I can play in resisting the devil and preparing the way of the Lord. I’m about fed up with the current mismanagement!

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  21. An off-topic comment on ‘turn the other cheek’. Much has been made about the passage, to the point of perverting justice, accountability, action that the entirety of Scripture beats as a drum.

    Pacifism (which false Christians adhere to) use the verse (Mt 5:39) to launch their paradigm upon the Spirit’s book(s).

    * Jesus came to die- it was His mission, the Father’s Will. We- the redeemed- are tasked with the opposite: do not become slaves, for we were purchased at a price, and that price was Jesus’ death. Lying down one’s life for a friend is listed as the greatest demonstration of compassion… not laying down one’s life for an enemy.
    * Peter was afflicted with pride, not physical insecurity or threat of financial ruin. Turn the other cheek when your faith is being attacked, not your son or daughter by the local satanic book club, a home invader molesting your wife or the bank trying to repo your land using property taxes as a tool.
    * We are called to be armed, with the Truth, with preparations, and with weapons. Direct commandments. The ‘consciencious objectors’ to the spiritual battles that manifest in the physical plane can never square the circle that is Lk 22:36. The immediate response is ‘that’s metaphorical!’. What is awkward is the silence that comes from reading 2 verses later: Lk 22:38 where the physical weapons are produced, nullifying the claims of this commandment being anything less than literal.
    * He is sending out as sheep among wolves, and absolutely gives us the tools and blessing to act in accordance with the evils we will face. Be ready! The battles will come from all angles: the Deceiver will use every avenue to attack the believer, relentlessly.

    Our God does not require self-loathing praise from groveling subjects. He has freed us, and expects us to live according to the belief we have been fully redeemed. The Gospel means ‘good news’. The burden is light, the yoke easy. You want me to turn the other cheek when my pride is on the line? Absolutely. You want me to turn the other cheek when the local muslim gang is kidnapping my 14yo daughter? That’s not of Christ.

    As brother ray has previously stated elsewhere in this online church, the Father is looking for warriors earnestly obeying all of His commandments, not the lukewarm practicing niceness. You’re doing it right when you are hated by the world, the neighborhood, the family and even those inside the church. Narrow is the way, and few find it.

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  22. For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven: a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; a time to love, and a time to hate; a time for war, and a time for peace.

    ikr,
    Although my father was 100% Mennonite, and he even taught me about their pacifist beliefs, he seemed to secretly not believe them himself. He always expressed gratitude to our military for their role in the protection of our nation and our religious freedoms. They say that dogs and certain other animals can “smell fear” and some people claim to also be able to sense it in others. I think that perhaps, like myself, my father gave off a complete lack of the fear of man and even imparted a certain dread upon others. Although I never heard a threatening word come out of my father’s mouth, I never doubted for a second that he would kill me if I sufficiently crossed him. I’ve got a couple tiny scars on my shaved head from where my head got split open, and at least one of those was from speaking disrespectfully of my mother within my father’s arms reach.(Big mistake!) Although he himself contended with my mother a lot, it was not my place to disrespect his wife, and I’ve still got a scar to show for it. My mother, his own wife, also seemed convinced that he would not hesitate to kill somebody.

    I’m not sure if I have related this story or not here before, but when my mom was pregnant with me, due to my mother’s suspected Multiple Sclerosis, the doctor offered to terminate her pregnancy for her. Apparently this was during a checkup and the doctor had rolled his roller stool up close and whispered it to my mother. My mom said(sorry ray, this is actually what she said),”I hauled off and slapped that little Jew doctor so hard he sprawled off his stool onto the floor, then I told him that I had never been so insulted in all my life, that he would think I might be the type of woman to kill my baby to save myself, and I put my clothes back on and stormed out of there”. FWIW my parents liked Jews, they just grew up identifying everybody by their race. So then I asked my mom the obvious question, well if you knocked the guy flat, what did dad do when he found out? And my mom informed me that she was so certain that my father might kill the man for offering to kill his son, that she didn’t ever tell my father about it until five years later after they had moved halfway across America from there. How times have changed!

    Yes, ikr, Jesus spoke of literal swords, and the Bible seems to at times advocate for nonresistance while at other times it seems to permit or even recommend violence. So, I guess the real question is how do we know when we should turn the other cheek, or like my contentious mother, try to bitch-slap the foolishness out of somebody? I’d also like to hear Derek’s perspective, and the perspectives of everybody else, since I’m a bit undecided on all this right now.

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  23. “I have a few questions ray?
    So when can we go from meekness and turning the other cheek to ruling them with a rod of iron and treading them down like ashes?”

    Soon I will write to you about this. I will also write more about the onrushing Kingdom, as you wish.

    My paragon is King Jeshua. Even when He’s acting as Lion, He is still always the Lamb. Which He is depends on you, and my approach to the world is likewise.

    This martial topic remained in my mind for a month, I can take a hint, so I’m glad and not surprised that you shared it, and that it emerged here. Such is the Church.

    For now I will just mention a quote from many years ago, from a nonverbal autistic man, with aide of a letterboard, and end with a Scriptural passage I was sent, very directly indeed, at about the same time.

    “Tough guys surround Lord”

    This passage I was sent takes place when Athaliah, the ‘queen’ of Judah, ruled. Ninth century B.C. She was daughter of Jezebel, and both carried the same foul spirit.

    “And ye shall compass the king round about, every man with his weapons in his hand: and he that cometh within the ranges, let him be slain: and be ye with the king as he goeth out and as he cometh in.” (2 Kings 11)

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  24. I’m not sure if I have related this story or not here before, but when my mom was pregnant with me, due to certain circumstances the doctor offered to terminate her pregnancy for her. Apparently this was during a checkup and the doctor had rolled his roller stool up close and whispered it to my mother. My mom said(sorry ray, this is actually what she said),”I hauled off and slapped that little Jew doctor so hard he sprawled off his stool onto the floor, then I told him that I had never been so insulted in all my life, that he would think I might kill my baby to save myself, and I put my clothes back on and stormed out of there”. FWIW my parents liked Jews, they just grew up identifying everybody by their race. So then I asked my mom the obvious question, well if you knocked the guy flat, what did dad do when he found out? And my mom informed me that she was so certain that my father might kill the man for offering to kill his son, that she didn’t ever tell my father about it until five years later after they had moved halfway across America from there.

    LOVE this story! 🙂

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  25. ikr says: Pacifism (which false Christians adhere to) …

    I’m not sure if you mean that all pacifists are and were false Christians, but that would be going too far in my opinion. It seems like most of the apostles were martyred and Paul and Silas didn’t bolt when the Philippian jail was broken open. I doubt The apostle Paul was throwing stones back at those stoning him. I think the persecuted Anabaptists, most of whom were pacifists, were some of the most godly people to walk the face of this earth, and they proved this through their works and by overcoming evil with good.
    Revelation 12:11 And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death.
    I think we can say that some people may take pacifism too far, and do not stand up or fight when they should, but I believe many holy martyrs who died for the name of Christ were pacifistic. I think the decision of when to turn the other cheek and when to be the striker is a real tough question to tackle, especially in the heat of a disagreement. But, such a sweeping accusation against all pacifists seems unsupported. What are your thoughts?

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  26. Elsewhere in this online church I posited the false dilemma of when two of God’s commandments contradict, that God would not permit His chosen to be in such a predicament. One example for man, one example for woman.

    Either you believe every word in the 66 books of the Bible to be true, or you do not. There is no having it both ways. If it is true, then it cannot contradict itself. Ever.

    If I am told to turn the other cheek, and I am also told to be physically armed… what value is a weapon if it is never to be wielded? Jesus wielded weapons, was violent, rebuked with insulting, and claimed He came not to bring peace but war… and He also healed the sick, revealed His divine nature to man, and faced Death alone on our behalf because it was the Father’s Will. But none of these are contradictory.

    The Bible is not passive. It is active. We are told to ‘multiply’, to ‘subdue’, to ‘GO!’, to ‘provide’, to ‘go through towns preaching’. (Woman has a unique commandment where man has legion: simply submit to your husband or father, also an action verb requiring discipline and duty). We are told to not assume a seat of condemnation (Mt 7:1) or anxiousness (Ps 46:10), but these speak to the heart, not to the physical manifestation of living out one’s faith. Rather, we see that inaction breeds laziness or lack of trust/faith in the Creator’s plans, and this is when we are reprimanded (Mt 25:25).

    Where do all these roads intersect? Build the wall with a hammer in one hand, and a sword in the other. Assume public shame without giving up the ability to fight to the death. If an adulterer or blasphemer or murderer is uncovered, the commandment is that they are put to death (Nu 35:16). Who among God’s chosen is carrying out these commandments in His service? Rather, we outsource capital punishment to Man, with his corrupt legal and judiciary systems. We will be judged for our disobedience.

    The Law does not change (Nu 23:19): Jesus asserted He did not come to change it (Mt 5:17), and again it was asserted the Law remains 100% intact (Mt 5:18).

    The Anabaptists may very well have accomplished good works IN SPITE OF their pacifist stance, but their stance is not what makes them righteous. Rather, they benefit from the willingness of others who ‘get their hands dirty’ in that domain, and through their actions of being a non-participant in the physical war, insult the very brotherly hands that feed them. Why do they get to enjoy physical safety, or lands to which one can flee, if they refuse to work for it? 2 Th 3:10.

    When the Reckoning occurs, there is a war. It will be global. We know this. Are we somehow to believe all the pious and righteous pacifists will, with the flip of a switch, be placed in the King’s armies as Generals and Commanders? No, the Jericho 300 were chosen as the men who were the pinnacle of warfighters, always on alert, even when drinking water within the ‘green zone’ of the battlefield.

    ‘Oh, but the Levites were the priests and they were not a warfighting tribe, the other 11 were. I’m just so in touch with the Bible I feel called to the priesthood ergo I cannot be violent. ‘ Learn your Bible, and you will learn the Levites were placed in a position of honor as a reward because they were so faithful they drew first blood (Ex 32:37-38) at the commandment to purge the weeds from the garden of the people Israel.

    The only man who was after God’s own heart was a warrior of great renown, who killed his ‘tens of thousands’ (in the Lord’s service).

    None of this is metaphorical. We are to be ready: we know not the day nor hour of Christ’s return. Be it financially, emotionally, physically.

    Pacifism is incompatible with Christianity.

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  27. A beautiful hymn written by a brother long passed, sharing here as it has been on my heart with all of this thread’s comments:

    God, give us good men;
    men who are great and strong.
    Men, who- for Truth and Honor’s sake-
    stand fast and suffer long.

    Brave men who work while others sleep,
    men who dare while others flee.
    Men who build a nation’s pillar’s deep,
    and strive to keep men free.

    God, give us meek men;
    men who know how to pray.
    Men who will worship God alone,
    and walk with Him each day.

    Wise men who know the Word of God;
    men who always will do right.
    Men who walk in deep humility,
    and trust in God’s great might.

    God, give us bold men;
    men who have hearts ablaze.
    Men, who- with broader vision-
    seek none but God’s own praise.

    True men with great integrity,
    men whose hearts the Lord has won;
    Men who live in humble gratitude
    for all that God has done.

    (Brave men who work while others sleep,)
    (men who dare while others flee,)
    (Men who live in humble gratitude)
    (for all that God has done.)

    – Ralph Waldo Emerson

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  28. “The Great whore is dedicated to emasculating God, and deifying the image of women. TFM, who has no reverence for any church, cuts through the churchian bullshit like a hot knife through butter.”

    Well that’s good then, that he seeks after the truth. Also ok that he introduced you to Nineteenth Amendment Reality and etc.

    However, be cautious assigning too much cred to any person who ‘has no reverence for any church’, as that’s close to one of Scripture’s descriptions of the antichrist spirit.

    For all TFM’s positives, if he doesn’t have Scriptural understanding, and a grasp of spiritual things by grace of God, then whatever he is teaching, it can only go so far, and should be trusted provisionally.

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  29. “My mom said(sorry ray, this is actually what she said),”I hauled off and slapped that little Jew doctor so hard he sprawled off his stool onto the floor”

    No, no offense on the Jew thing, I’m aware of how people talked then, yes I am that old.

    I’m not sure why some people in the ‘manosphere’ imagine I should be down with the Jew/Israel hating thing. That would be rather self-destructive.

    However, I’m not a fan of women slapping men, especially in America where it is such a feminist trope, an inversion of Created authority, and a staple of many American films, which leads to impressionable and rebellious American females assuming they own male bodies. A ‘cold’ no and vamoose would have sufficed.

    In fact that happened to me too, a few years back, in a government office, yes yrs trooly on Eternal State-Cam! Slapped by some woman I didn’t know, for disobedience probly. :O)

    Turned out to be an occasion when it was profitable to ‘turn the other cheek’. It was right in the lobby, so many witnesses, including Security, who came to me promptly to see what I wanted to do with her. Had some fun with the cop that day! He told me he was shaking, not from anger at the incident, but from fear of me.

    I grew up in a working class shipyard town, my paternal grandpa Ray worked on the Yard as a machinist all his life, after surviving the Depression. Our town, like most then, was segregated, and Grandpa Ray and Grandma lived near a black neighborhood. His attitude towards the children of Ham generally was, well, rather unmodern. He was a hard but solid man, not a Christian tho, so you just know I have some conversations with the King about him. Ciao

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  30. ray says: For all TFM’s positives, if he doesn’t have Scriptural understanding, and a grasp of spiritual things by grace of God, then whatever he is teaching, it can only go so far, and should be trusted provisionally.

    Of course, and that’s why I’m so anxious to hear more from you, ray, about what you hinted that you might share.

    As for anti-Semitism I think Satan delights in using God’s chosen people, both to get back at God and to make others angry at the Jews. If we then hate them, Satan accomplishes part of his purpose. May blessings and honor accrue upon Israel, and may the Prince of Peace return to Jerusalem.

    I’m not a fan of women hitting or fighting men either. And it wasn’t wise of my mom to strike a man while locked in a room with him, both pregnant and not fully dressed. My mother in law, a very disrespectful woman, “playfully” socked me in the arm once. Perhaps as a “shit test”. So I punched her back in her arm a little harder, and told her don’t ever hit me again. It never happened again.
    Warning: My parents never taught me not to hit girls. And I got suspended for three days from third grade for taking a girl down with a gut punch. Long story, but she deserved it. Ladies, don’t fight with men! If you do, and I’m there, I’ll just shake my head and chuckle while he kills you. One less fool.
    But I’d fight with a grizzly for my sons:

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  31. “The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.” (Exodus 15:3)

    I am still considering your specific questions, as they are not light ones.

    To begin talking about war, I gave you an example of turning the other cheek, which had an immediate and powerful effect upon a very large and hardened cop. No word of war I might have spoken to him would have made him so afraid of me, all 120 lbs soaking wet. So it’s power is real, not least because it takes accusation out of satan’s mouth.

    As for war with this world, I didn’t seek or choose it, it was made repeatedly upon me. Had they been smart, they would have left me to my stupid career and long ago I’d have retired in some small mountain town and watched the brook run and that’d be it. But no, so eventually they got my attention. That was many decades back.

    The princes of this world are constantly warring and squabbling, one with the other. Satan’s kingdom always is divided, due to the character of its inhabitants. But I don’t choose war as they choose, for power and territorial vanity. And in truth I didn’t begin making war with any noble cause in mind, including the cause of heaven. I did it because they pissed me off and left me little choice.

    It was a few years later that God informed me, gradually, as to what was actually happening and why. So that should help illustrate how high the King is above someone like me.

    To the sheep, I am wise as a serpent, and harmless as a dove. To the wolves, I am wise as a serpent, and terrible as a tidal wave. God seems to like it that way yet still, I’m not sure I will fit in the King’s Millennium of Peace. After all they left the ark outside Jerusalem, with Obed-Edom the Gittite, i.e., in God-forsaken GATH! of all hellholes, that black jewell of the Philistine Pentapolis, where the soil is still sick from the bones of giants.

    That was David’s greatest day btw. Leaving the ark outside the Holy City while the circuits cooled. Croaking Goliath — the Gittite — was a close second. The LORD was greatly pleased with David on that day, the day he dumped the ark, because he acted as king and placed the welfare of his people above an immediate threat to his own life. Like angering the ark.

    But neither was the LORD angry with the cheru-bim, because passing through the threshingfloor of Nachon can make one quite sensitive to touch. Of course poor Uzzah couldn’t know that, he was just trying to help.

    I gave you an example of my peace, in the story of the quaking cop, and I opened this topic of war because I had considered asking you to recount the details of your ‘banana-clip incident’. I have an example from my own life that likewise might prove instructive as to why the sword sometimes is indicated.

    Christ comes next in combat and so do His servants.

    “A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace” (Ecclesiastes 3:8)

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  32. ray,
    I’m looking forward to when you can tell me more. Like you, If the evil one had just left well enough alone, I was pretty preoccupied with other things, but now I’ve got little to lose and everything to gain by fighting for God, and I’m ready to execute God’s war unsparingly. I know the story of the man touching the ark being struck dead, at the threshing floor, but I’m not sure why you were mentioning it. I guess I didn’t understand that part, or why it was so great that David left the ark outside Jerusalem, if you could explain that more, it has been a while since I read about that.

    I don’t necessarily want to share too much more publicly about my subduing the drunken mob, just for my own legal protection. Except that I’ll clarify that I had a 75 round drum clip on my .30 caliber assault rifle. I kept the banana clips as my backup usually, two sets of two 30 round clips taped back to back for another 120 rounds. No rounds were fired. I have never shot at anybody.

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  33. lol well I like that you’re honest about not understanding. That’s wise. I was purposely vague to see what you knew, so I’d know what to tell you.

    First, go to 2 Samuel 6 and read it until you have some grasp, i.e., various translations plus relevant commentaries that look profitable. That’s the least I generally do when interacting with Scripture.

    To understand 2 Samuel 6 it helps to grok 1 Samuel 4-5. I’d be glad to help with those also if you wish. They are gold mines.

    For now, I’ll just answer your question. I mentioned Uzzah being struck dead at Nachon’s threshing-floor because I was explaining to you why a martial person like me might not fit into Christ’s Millennium — of PEACE.

    I next explained that the great Hebrew king David also excluded someone from Jerusalem (the same location as Christ’s HQ for the Millennium) because of it’s martial nature (the ark). It was momentarily ‘too hot’ you see and so David left it outside Jerusalem (i.e., holy precinct) for a time to ‘cool’.

    Why was the ark hot, so hot it automatically ‘burned’ poor Uzzah? Because it had been handled by the Philthy Philistines, and because it was passing through a threshing-floor, you might say ‘the’ threshing-floor, the one Christ Himself also passed through, where the grain is beaten from the sheaves using rods or flails. Sound familiar?

    The ark is a powerful weapon, or a servant you could say, and a bit touchy and so David risked his life when he left the cherubim outside the holy city. It pained him to do so b/c he was very happy at bringing the LORD’s presence into his own city. But he put aside his grief and risked his butt and did what was best for his people and for Jerusalem — leaving the beloved ark outside for awhile.

    God liked that a lot and so do I.

    2 Samuel 6 is a very rich chapter. If you still have questions about the chapter or about what I wrote pls feel free.

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  34. O yeah almost forgot, during the few minutes that I was reading your response above, there was an earthquake here. Pretty good shaker. :O)

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  35. Pastor Sharkly, the Lord has just performed a miracle related to the quake I reported.

    Very typically generous of you Beloved! How low you are willing to stoop.

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  36. He used that quake to communicate something to you. To me also, but mostly to you. Wow! No matter how many times He does His Thing, it never gets old!

    However it is personal information involving security and I can’t discuss it here or publicly. if you’d like to be contacted privately about it, or if you can think of alternative secure communications, I think you will be vindicated and strengthened for your efforts at LAF and for your fidelity to Him.

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